edgar (00:06):

Some people like to attribute everything or stuff like this to racism in the police departments. And I'm sure there is racism in the police departments, but we have to, we have to make sure we know,

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Speaker 2 (00:21):

Like I try my best. Like I signed those petitions

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me (00:23):

Because what I really, I think it's deeper than that truck.

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edgar (00:28):

I mean, I don't know how else to explain it. It sucks what they're doing. Your sons

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Speaker 2 (00:33):

Black lives matter movement, a movement that is grounded in notions of respect, dignity, justice, and sanctity of life, sanctity of black life. You noted that this was inherently racism. Interested in your thoughts on that. Uh, Gary McCarthy, you, what do you think black lives matter? Do you agree with the former mayor of New York city, Rudy Giuliani? While I can tell you this? I think if there was a movement called white lives matter,

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edgar (00:54):

I don't see race factor here. She went to vigils that assaulted another individual. You know, they were bad people. What they did is bad.

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me (01:05):

Hi, welcome to awkwardly adulting today. We're talking with echo. All my sources from today's episode will be in the description and a transcript of today's episode recipe on my website. Just to note all my transcripts will be made available in due time on your website as well. It's getting to the episode here is

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edgar (01:24):

My name is [inaudible]. I am currently attending UCLA as a ecology nature, and I'm here to offer a different opinion on BLM or everything else that's going on in our world. Right?

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me (01:40):

In this episode, we will be discussing COVID-19 the black lives matter movement. And the comments made on Instagram that is pushing a, I guess, a black versus Brown type thing. But first let's get into COVID. What is your stance on COVID-19? Is it real? Is it,

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edgar (02:04):

I don't understand how people can think it's fake and somehow people have made this all

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me (02:10):

Political. Um,

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edgar (02:13):

I wouldn't rule out that it's government made depending on which government we're talking about. Um, yeah, the whole idea that this is a fake pandemic meant to do whatever these people think. No, I think they're just, I have no idea what that's at all

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me (02:35):

Before the opening up of California, we were in quarantine for three months, from the CA gov website. It has an article addressing the governor, launching the, where a mass campaign. The campaign is encouraging people to wear masks to effectively slow the spread of COVID governor. Gavin Newsom said we all have a responsibility to slow the spread. It is imperative and required that Californians protect each other by wearing masks and practicing physical distancing when in public. So we can fully reopen our economy, set, governor Newsom, we all need to stand up by leaders show we care and get this done. And a tweet made by the mayor of Los Angeles. He stated we are also working to ensure greater access to testing and address the disproportionate rates of COVID-19 among multiple Angelenos by providing testing and public housing developments and increasing access for endless Angelina. Do you think coming up with a vaccine would be the solution to COVID-19?

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edgar (03:38):

No, no, no. I mean, we can see with vaccines that we have now, all of those diseases still exist. It's just vaccines, help us become more prepared to fight them on I'm covering 19. It's going to be around for a long time. Definitely not in the same pandemic state that it currently is, but if it's something that's here to stay,

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me (04:04):

Do you think that wearing mask has come around to reality? Like do you think the changes that they're making now are permanent?

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edgar (04:12):

Uh, no, I don't think so. Um, we will, for awhile, maybe I would say at minimum probably a year. I mean, the people that are currently wearing masks anyway, cause that's the whole problem itself. Um, I think for, I think definitely for at least a minimum of a year, people who understand why we're wearing masks are going to keep wearing them. I don't know how long that'll go to how many years that will last. But ultimately once we are past this whole pandemic state where everyone's, uh, fear levels have gone down, I think everything will go back to the way it wasn't before,

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me (04:58):

Before wrapping up our discussion on COVID-19 Edgar talks about the uncertainty of the new virus.

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edgar (05:05):

I hope people are staying safe out there. Now there's this idea that we're young, it's not going to hurt us. Not many people have died, but I mean, we don't know. We don't know what COVID-19 is. We don't know, but long lasting effects that it will have on our bodies. If we get infected, we know it kills older people, but, but it, it, you know, we, we don't have no idea what it is. We know something, but it's fairly new. We're going to learn a whole lot more about it. I just hope April stay safe

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me (05:43):

Before we get into the black lives matter topic of this episode, I want to make it clear that BLM means black lives are equal to other lives. BLM means I shouldn't be worried about the police killing me, but I should be worried about other people, a murderer, for example, killing me. It's about the job of a cop to protect people from these people that want to do wrongdoing. The black lives matter movement focuses on how some cops use their power and a person's criminal record to just find them killing another person. This is wrong. It should be the cop's job to protect and to arrest people who do wrong. It is not their job to kill. This is my personal understanding of the moment, but let's discuss with Edgar.

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edgar (06:29):

Well, there's two separate parts to it. I would say one is BLM the movement, the one we all know the one with the sirens in our capital B capital now, capital M. And then the second is the idea behind black lives matter. Right? I support the idea, right? The idea that racism, slavery, you know, it's still, we're still feeling the re the repercussions of all that in our current society. And I think it's dumb to say that we aren't, because it's a part of our history. It's part of how this country came to be. And it's deeply rooted in all our institutions. Um, but I mean, my main opposition, so my main opposition comes not to the idea of black lives matter, uh, that a lot of people think about, but BLM the movement itself, you know, the hashtag the, uh, I don't know how else to explain it.

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me (07:35):

Oh, well, how're promoting it, I guess,

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edgar (07:40):

In a way. Yeah, but you know, so BLM started what, 2016 Portland, at least that's the first time everyone became really aware of it. I would say that iteration of BLM and what it's become now, I think it's important to separate the core values of BLM and what they say they want versus what it is and what a lot of people see it as now.

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me (08:15):

So what exactly do you see it as now? What has changed from 2016 and 2020?

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edgar (08:21):

So what was the event that originally made BOM so big? Do you remember?

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me (08:29):

Um, in 2016 and they say on their website, it's like someone, I think it's a kid named Tamir rice. I'm going to look it up so I can be precise. Oh, so Tamir rice. I was correct. So he was, wasn't told her all boy, he got killed by police officer.

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edgar (08:44):

Was it the boy with the toy gun? I think so. Okay. Yeah. So pretty much during the first wave, at least for as long as I remember there being in police brutality. Right. So that was like, I would say that's the first, maybe there was some before that was the first sort of a public outcry against what was happening around the same time. Obviously there was more events than just to me rice, but around that same time, that was when all of these instances were coming up really big for the first time, I would say. So I think one of the most important things that black lives matter wants to fight against is police brutality, which honestly, I think most people would say is, is a big deal. It is a problem. If we can obviously see the, whether it's, how they're trained, whether it's the power they feel they have, or the people that are being brought into the police departments, there is a problem.

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edgar (09:49):

People are abusing their power. Something needs to change. Something needs to be done about that. But now I think my biggest issue with them is, is the way, like you said, the way they go about doing these things. So I think one of the big slogans right now is no justice, no peace. Right. But the thing is, you know, I'm not too sure what that means. What justice, you know, what justice are they talking about? Obviously they mean just spread the victims of police brutality, but what is that justice does it mean they get arrested, tried and jailed for maximum sentences. Doesn't mean they get arrested, but what happened and tried, but what happens if they're not jail? Do you know what happens in, if a court finds them not guilty, is that justice, is that not justice? And I actually have a question for you, you know, because I think a lot of people, a lot of people that support BLM and a lot of protesters right now would say, no, that's not justice them not being jailed for doing whatever they did. But does that mean we should rely now on the court of public opinion instead of the justice system? You know, do you think that would be a more effective way or do you even think it's right. That that's, that's a factor in all of this.

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me (11:19):

Okay, great. I'm going to go back. I don't really have a great understanding of courts trials, all that, but I do understand that isn't there like a little motto saying everyone's like Ruben took everyone's innocent until proven guilty in a way. And that's my opinion. So when people are, so for example, George, George flood, he was committed at a crime. Okay. And instead of being told that he's not guilty, like he's innocent in a way and being arrested and then put into whatever courts. And I, yeah, I wish I had a better understanding of it, but I don't understand why he was killed and that's against justice in a way. That's like the other situation with the guy running through the Wendy's parking lot. He, I understand that he had like a criminal record. Like everyone's like, Oh, he was, yes, yes. This behind him. And they justified that for him being killed. And that doesn't make sense to me. You should have been arrested and then he should have been asked and then courts, blah, blah, blah. Like all that I want, I want that to happen. If I commit a crime, I want that to happen for me. That's my definition of what no justice, no peace means. But when you say the court system, or when did you say the other

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edgar (12:44):

Yeah. Uh, the court system versus the court of public opinion.

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me (12:49):

So what's the difference. Can you please explain for me?

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edgar (12:51):

So the court system would be, uh, I guess the police department, the prosecutors, the judges, you know, uh, w the judicial system in the us, you know, the courts, all of that, the court of public opinion is, um, I guess, uh, the best example is, is, uh, cancel culture moms, you know, the people themselves choosing, uh, stating their opinions, but at the same time, choosing, uh, to try someone in public, instead of going through the actual chords and all that. So then deciding, Oh, you did something wrong instead of, uh, a court that has evidence saying you did something wrong.

me (13:45):

Yeah. I'm all for the evidence part, to be honest. Um, there's a lot of, see, I want to become a journalist one day, and I know that facts and evidence is better than just your opinion and what you like. There's psychology, like in a class that I took in high school, they're talking about how there's this thing where, um, if someone sees a crime, it's not really reliable because our memory is weird. We think we saw something when really we didn't. And I really, I don't know. I, I, I think the court system, I believe in, and I want, I just want to be able to, I guess in a way, if me, me and another person, um, a white male, both of us for speeding, I want to be able to feel like I just want to know that he will get pulled over and I will get pulled over and I will be arrested and he will be arrested, or he will get fine and I will get fine. I want that. And that's what I want. I want to be able to know that I am safe. If that person is speeding, he will get a ticket. Or if that person killed someone, he will get, uh, whenever the court system, whatever, how that works. And I want to, I want to know that I'm safe and that if I commit a crime, I will be tried the same way as someone else. That's what I want. And that's what I see justice as. Um, but yeah,

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edgar (15:13):

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I think that's what the vast majority of people want.

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me (15:19):

Um,

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edgar (15:22):

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But then I guess that's, yeah. I mean, that would still be one of my big issues with not only BLM, but a lot of, uh, for these progressive movements, the, a lot of the time they do rely on, on a court of public opinion, like in the case of George [inaudible], I mean, let's make it clear what happened was wrong. Right. And I do think that he was killed. I think that the officer that killed him should go to prison because that was a crime. But now we have to ask ourselves if he was taken, if he was arrested, right. He wasn't going to be arrested. We know that, right. So that's what protestors did correctly. Right? They got him arrested so that he could be tried. We know that if there wasn't public outcry, you know, he would be living his life normally now. So the problem is, and it may not necessarily be a problem in this instance, but it does sort of open up a Pandora's box where now we know that he's going to be put away. Well, we don't know for sure, but we can brightly assume that he will be put away. And a lot of that is due to the protesting, which in this case may be right, because we know he did something wrong, or at least a lot of us agree that he did something wrong, but now is he being put it away because the court is going to find him guilty, the justice system, or is she being put away in part because the public wants to be,

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me (17:15):

You know, what's sad. I think that a lot of people, a lot of my friends, they really want a lot of people want these officers to be arrested and, and all that. And a lot, there's a lot of petitions and about other people's murders, um, about other police officers who have murdered. And, uh, I just have to say that it, that goes 20% of the way, but I really think the, the real issue is the court system and how, like, I looked up an article, I looked up his, uh, the people that murdered George Floyd and the people that were arrested are already leaving. Like they got out. And it really shows that yes, these people killed someone, but the fact that these judges and that side, the government, I guess they're taking sides in a way. And I really don't like, I try my best, like I signed those petitions, but I really, I think it's deeper than that.

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me (18:32):

It's, it's a deeper issue and a deeper problem. And honestly, I, in a way, my pestle, like, sadly, I really don't think that my, my signature will really help in a way now I'm, I'm still going to sign a petition. I'm still going to sign them. But in a way it's not, it's not something I can really fix. It's it's the people up there that, that need to fix that. And I think that's what the protests, uh, that's what they're doing. They're trying to scream the loudest to, to try to make other people like me and you, other people understand. And that them being able to talk more and just, I think they're just trying to get people to come together and understand my, the government or the, the courts. This is an issue when we need to talk more, we need change. Do the political views of the founders of the black lives matter movement influenced your understanding of the movement. Okay. So a lot of people don't like them because they're Martin Marxist. If you look up, if you look up on YouTube, um, uh, BLM founders, founders, you'll immediately say, you'll see Marxist train assists and says their trademarks says it'd be Marxist amidst. A Marxist has roots and works assists admits to being marked Marxist. Do you think that contributes to how you see the BLM movement or did you even know about it? Um, yeah. I just want your opinion on that.

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edgar (20:10):

I had no idea they were Marxists. Um, I'm pretty sure if other people found out about it, it would any idea, I mean, any time the right areas, the word Marxists, they think communist socialist. And I mean, just hearing that from the founders of dear BLM is enough, but a lot of people off, um, I don't know their exact political views. You know, it's easy to write someone off as a Marxist socialist the communist, but without actually knowing what they're saying and what they stand for. I can't really think judge about that.

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me (20:50):

And a YouTube video posted by CNN channel. The title States is the black lives matter racist. This was posted in 2016 when the BLM movement first kicked off, here's what the video included sushi

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Speaker 2 (21:11):

And that black lives matter movement, a movement that is grounded in notions of respect, dignity, justice, and sanctity of life, sanctity of black life. You noted that this was inherently racism interested in your thoughts on that Gary McCarthy. You've what do you think black lives matter? Do you agree with the former mayor of New York city, Rudy Giuliani? Well, I can tell you this. So I think if there was movement called white lives matter, it would be considered racist. So I think that all lives matter. I spent 35 years as a matter of fact, today's my 35th anniversary as a police officer starting here in New York city. And for 35 years have been trying to reduce crime and stop murders. And it didn't matter if they were black, white, green, or purple. So I, I'm a believer that we got to get by the differences. We got to have an honest conversation, which I hope this is going to open up to me.

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Speaker 2 (21:57):

And at the end of the day, we have to have exposure to each other and we have to sit down and really re at this thing and get, get after. Do Tyler. I just an applause. People who believe that that black lives matter is a racist and offensive. If you believe there was a white lives matter, would it be considered racist? Plus you think it would be considered racist? Zaida there's no reason for them. They don't need a white lives matter because it's already, it's already understood that [inaudible] hold on one second, Tom, I'm going to use a very simple analogy. If you and I went to the store, both of us have ordered hamburgers and they gave you yours and it gave Bishop Jakes. He is, and I didn't get mine. Is it, is it discrimination? Is it racist? Because I say, where's my burger, but then you turn around and you say all burgers matter. Well, I'm glad you have yours. Oh, what about my, okay, go ahead, Gary. I'm sorry, Tom. But the day-to-day you put up showed that the police have shot more white people this year and a half black folks. Now, by the way, I'm not dismissing the issue in no way, shape or form. Am I doing it? I'm merely presenting an alternative thought that judge, listen, hang on everybody. He thinks that you are dismissing his issue by spicing that are you listening? Do you, do you cancel? Unless when I hear him, absolutely I'm yesterday.

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me (23:16):

But what we're really going to talk about is the comments. Now I do this at 3:00 AM and I looked at this video and it made me laugh because the video is so weird. And in my previous podcast episode, I really talk about journalism and how a lot of casters, or I guess, broadcasters, they really go against the code of ethics of journalism. And it's not right. It's not, you're not doing job. And the audience was all black. That's really not it. That should not, it should not be like that. It really puts out a message of black lives matter that we're only black, it's only black people. We're only, we only like it's very, I don't like, I don't like how they've picked up that. And then it was a black journalist on top of that. And you can tell by the time the generalist, his voice, that he, he has a personal connection.

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me (24:11):

He's trying, he has his own bias. And if that's not allowed, you should not be doing that. It should be someone else that does not have any bias at all. That does not have any emotional connection. So that video bothered me, but the comments bothered me more because it really showed that this video proved the other side's point. And I guess CNN, no one likes CNN because of that, but that really made me mad and me off. So I have, Oh, I have a couple of these comments on my phone. And, uh, did you watch the video? Did okay. What was your opinion on the video?

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edgar (24:48):

I mean, I first, I didn't even realize it was an all black audience. I did not realize until you mentioned it to now. Yeah. Like he said, now, knowing that detail and of course, uh, there was a Don men. Yeah. Whoever the journalist was. Um, yeah, they had an agenda. The whole thing was structured in a way where they wanted to get a certain reaction out of it. And that that's exactly it's been gone. I found some of your comments to be a pretty funny, others were definitely bad. All of the top comments were, um, were just interesting. And when, I mean, when I say funny, I don't mean like in a joking kind of way, they were just,

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me (25:35):

Yeah, I get you. I understand. So I have some comments. I kind of told you, I wanted you to like screenshot your own comments that you found, but here I'll talk about the ones that I found that really, Oh, wait, it's on my computer. They were, it made me like cringe in a way, but I don't think people actually look up stuff. They don't Google anything. And it's, it's kind of concerning because a lot of people are saying some stuff that did not make any sense. Uh, that's not what BLM is. I don't know. It just, yeah. So when looking at the CNN video and the comments, cause I can't find the screenshots of comments, which is terrible, but if I do find them, I'll share them on my Instagram page. Um, but the top comments, um, very, uh, interesting. So the first one says funny, everyone ignores when he says more by people are shot by cops. The second comment is I'm black. And I can say that white people always give him the respect. It's the black folks, folks that are angry and curse a lot. The one who made me laugh, that one was funny. And then the third one is just racist in reverse. They have become what they say they hate. And the first comment has 415 likes second one, 615. And the third one has four 31st

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edgar (27:04):

One. Do you know if that's true?

 

me (27:07):

Okay. So, uh, there's an argument. And uh, the all lives matter, people, they say, uh, Oh, white people are shot more by the police and all this and all that. I think there's like a graphic, there's a graphic that was shown on Tik TOK that I found. And it showed, of course, white people are shot more by the police because there's more of white people, but you like, it makes so much like that argument me off because it makes so much sense. There is not a lot of love. There's not a lot of black people cause okay. But yeah. And then that bothered me and I don't know. Do you have an opinion on it or no, I shouldn't. I need a screenshot.

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edgar (27:47):

Um, I've seen a lot of graphics these past couple of weeks. I think I know which one you're talking about. And uh, I was asking because I wasn't too sure. BI the arguments I've heard is from one side is white. People are shot more. And on the argument on the other side is yes, but black people are shot more per capita.

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me (28:13):

I have no idea how that works.

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edgar (28:16):

Yeah. Essentially since there are more white people, they are shot more. But as a percentage, a greater amount of the black population is stuck more than, than, uh, than, uh, than the percentage of white people that are shot.

me (28:34):

And that was shown in the graphic that I had. I think it, I think I posted on my story so I can try to find it and post about it. But yeah, it, it really showed how I'm going to try and find it. If you're talking about the second comment, do you have an opinion on that?

edgar (28:51):

Not really. I mean, first of all, you have to ask, but at this, because this is the internet and a lot of things are anonymous. One of the things you always have to ask is, is this person really black? They're saying they are exactly person. Are they? Because it might not be that common, but it happens. It happens on the internet. People can lie about who they are. So that's the first question, you know, is this person really who they say they are? And if they are

me (29:27):

Continuum, if you look at the video of the audience, if you look at the whole comment section, there's no profile pictures on any of them. You can maybe find one white guy, but there's, none of them have a profile picture. So just put that perspective because you can continue. I'm sorry. Yeah.

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edgar (29:42):

Um, and I mean, if they are everyone has their different experiences, like, I don't know what else to say about that. Maybe what they're saying is true. Uh, and I can't say they're lying because they posted something on, uh, as a YouTube comment. But yeah.

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me (30:00):

So going back to what we were discussing earlier, we were talking about a graphic that I had seen on Tik TOK that was talking about the argument that white people are killed more than black people. So the graphic it's kind of oddly shaped, but if you really look at it, it shows the deaths per million and that's hurt way share of us population. So on the bottom, it says 13% of blacks, 12% of Hispanics, white, 60% and other people 15%. And this is of the us population. So whenever someone says our argument, Oh, but white people are being killed more by police. This is what they're referring to the U S population. But if you look at the share of deaths per million, some out of the, out of him, I guess, out of a million people, 43% of them are black. 33% of those people were Hispanic and 17% of them are white. And then the rest is 6% of other people. So that's the graphic. And that's what it says. What's your comments on it?

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edgar (31:07):

I would say, I mean, regarding this graphic, first thing that I want to know is, you know, where did they get these numbers? And then as look, I'm not saying that this is what tapped to name, but there's a lot of misinformation out there. First step. I think this is the, this should be the first step for everyone because I have seen this a lot with people's Instagram posts and whatnot, you know, check that what you're sharing is true or a check that it's even a good argument first place. Um, so once we verify that it is important to see what percentage of, and it's kind of shocking to see what percentage of people are, uh, are killed by police based, based on what this graph shows. You know, it shows that white people make up 60% of the white population or 1 million people, but only 17% of those people are killed by police.

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edgar (32:11):

While let's say black people make up only 13% of that population per a million people, but 43% of police victims are black. You know, so obviously there's, these numbers are disproportionate, but we have to ask ourselves why, I think it's, it's easy for people to say, you know what? It has to be solely racism, which a lot, not everyone says, but I feel like some people like to attribute everything or stuff like this to racism in the police departments. And I'm sure there is racism in the police departments, but we have to, we have to make sure we know all the factors. Therefore, we, we come to a definitive conclusion about what these numbers mean.

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me (33:04):

I actually, I agree with you on that too. There's also, well, I guess two other factors, I guess, would be the people. A lot of people bring up the fact that police officers don't have a lot of training. Like they bring up the fact that doctors have to go to school long to get, they have that argument. And I understand that. I really think that's also why I really think it's sad, but I really think when you put a regular person, if I was put in, like if I was a police officer, I have no idea how I would react in certain situations. And I have no idea how, um, this type of media coverage would put a toll on me, um, with my job. And I guess I just wish a lot of police officers had more training and just more, more schooling, I guess. I just, and then a mental check, I guess, I don't know. There just needs to be more moves and learn simulations. Like I don't know, people being put into real world real world situations before they actually do the real job, if that makes any sense.

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edgar (34:13):

That makes a lot. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, what police training in the U S right now is couple of weeks, couple months, maybe less than a couple of months. Uh, and that's definitely not enough time to prepare someone for such a straining job

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me (34:33):

Recently on social media. A lot of, um, I'm going to say Hispanics, and I'm going to say blacks because honestly there's such a, um, a lot of mixed races out there. So a lot of people have been arguing with each other in the comments section of many posts of black people, black young men beating up vendors in Hispanic vendors and just Hispanic, old men. And I want to talk about how I want to talk about how damaging it is, but at the same time, yes, I understand where you're coming from. Um, there's a lot of, there's a lot of videos out there that show these black men beating up these, uh, Hispanic men or women. And I want to bring up this one because it came up all over my own timeline. And I think they deleted the video. They deleted the video of this man getting beat up.

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me (35:36):

And I, it very odd that they deleted the video because I don't know. I thought that's their whole plan. That's what they wanted. Um, but in a post they had this, so they have the post and the video. And, um, I guess a couple posts later, they have their whole account, which is very weird. It's a very against BLM and they post a video and they have like a description like this, this needs to end, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't screenshot it. But then in the next post or in another account, this person went against their, what they were saying. And they posted tweet tweets of 'em were talking about how the Hispanic community posts these videos during this movement, um, to, I guess, go against the, the, the movement to, to fight about it, I guess. Do you have another way of explaining it? I really like, I don't, I don't want to say black versus Brown because I don't, that's kind of, yeah. But yeah. So let's, I guess let's talk about it when you first saw the video. When did you think about it? Like what, the first thing that came to mind,

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edgar (37:00):

Uh, you mean of the two people assaulting the, uh, vendor?

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me (37:05):

Um, yes. Let's talk about that one. Cause there's so many videos. So just that.

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edgar (37:09):

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it it's, it's rough, you know, they're trying to Rob someone I'm mean, I don't know how else to explain it. It, it, it sucks what they're doing sucks. They're, they're beating someone up steal from them and it's just, it's such a bad feeling.

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me (37:30):

Do you ever hear comments from people around you that contribute to that? Or do you have an opinion against that? Or do you just understand you empathize with what they're feeling? Like? How do you feel about that?

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edgar (37:43):

No, I don't. I don't come across that many comments at the same time. I don't really empathize because I think we'll put a big emphasis on, on the race of these people. But I, from what I can see, I mean, I don't see race plaintiff factor here. It was two individuals that assaulted another individual or, you know, they were bad people. What they did is bad, but it's difficult to say that they're bad people and this should all be attributed to whatever race they are.

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me (38:28):

Um, I actually completely agree because a lot of the comments, they were just commenting on the race

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edgar (38:33):

Of the people, but there's

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me (38:36):

A whole nother video of you, white people. They literally trashed this guy's ventilator, the, this Hispanic vendor. I don't think he could speak English. Yeah. I don't think you can speak English. And when you go to the comments, it wasn't as bad, but it was very telling like, . Okay. I see, I see. What's going on. Could you have any ending thoughts using class closing bats? I just hope everyone's staying safe, being rational.

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Speaker 4 (39:29):

Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode. If you reached this part of the episode, which is the end, please subscribe, please follow the podcast. So you're able to, um, get notified when I do upload instead of checking my Instagram. And if you're not following my Instagram, it is at adulting OC, a daunting pod on Instagram. And I just wanted to say this episode was so much fun to record. Um, I actually have three separate segments from this episode that I did take out because it didn't really, um, flow with the rest of the episode. So I might upload the three separate segments in another day of the week, or if I'm not really feeling, um, like recording this week, I can just upload it, but I might ask my Instagram if they want to hear it. And if not, then I won't upload them, but they're very interesting conversations. So I'm gonna try to figure out where, uh, I'm going to upload it either on IETV or on, um, listening platforms. But yeah. Thank you guys so much for listening. Okay. I see you guys on the next episode.

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